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Thud
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PostPosted: 17 Feb 2003, 15:00 
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I was perusing the A-10 Pilot Ops Procedures and saw smoky devil/chaff/flare procedures or something of the like. I'd never heard of smoky devils, so I did a google search and didn't come up with anything. What are they?

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Smoky Devils are self protection flare simulators. They load and dispense from the ALE-40 the same as chaff and flare.
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Thud
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Why would one use a flare simulator? I'm assuming they're for training?

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maybee to prevent fires on the ground?

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One would think that, but Smokey Devils pose a bigger fire danger than flares do and their use is more restrictive than with flares.

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so are "smokey devils" less expensive ?

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The only smokey devils I've ever heard of are SAM Simulators used during excercises such as Cope Thunder. I really have not seen any though since about 1990.
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Smokey devils, M-206(T-2)/B Flare Simulators are cheaper than regular M206 Flares. M206 are around $20.21 each while the T-2 is about $7.50 each.

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Is that $20 per flare?
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Yup, plus about .99 cents for the squib. So with a typical mod holding 30 flares, well you do the math.

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The SAM simulators are called Smokey SAMs.
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more than $5,000 per Strike Eagle !!! IF the modules were ALL flares. So how much does the chaff cost? I find balls of it around here every once in a while.

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