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Author:  gunnut [ 07 Sep 2006, 12:35 ]
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Any interest in seeing the pictures I took at the Los Angeles Museum of Science and Industry?

I posted them at WAB and all I got was a smartass comment from a MiG fan in India. <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>



Edited by - gunnut on Sep 11 2006 13:46

Edited by - gunnut on Sep 11 2006 13:46
Author:  M21 Sniper [ 07 Sep 2006, 12:42 ]
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They have one of these out at Hill. I took a bunch of pix of it and posted them when i was out there a few years back.

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<font color=yellow><i><b>"One way or another, your car is coming with me."</b></i></font id=yellow>
Author:  Ice Pirate [ 07 Sep 2006, 13:05 ]
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ME LIKES PICS!<img src=newicons/bounce.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

"Slow is Fast - Fast is Slow"
Author:  Skuz9c1 [ 07 Sep 2006, 17:09 ]
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ME LIKES PICS!<img src=newicons/bounce.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

"Slow is Fast - Fast is Slow"

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Author:  Horrido [ 07 Sep 2006, 17:38 ]
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Post'em.

It's a SR-71C at Hill, by the way.

Crushed under his own mental block...
Author:  M&M [ 07 Sep 2006, 20:08 ]
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Evan beat me to it. Its a SR-71C at Hill (only one of its kind). The maintenance guys HATED it. It was nicknamed "The Bastard" since it was a hybrid comprised of the rear fuselage of the first YF-12A (S/N 60-6934) and a functional engineering mockup of an SR-71A forward fuselage built for static testing. The plane was built to replace the second of the two B model trainers after it crashed on 11 January 1968. The C model made its first flight on 14 March 1969 from the Lockheed plant at Palmdale, California, with Blackbird Chief Project Pilot Robert J. Gilliland at the controls and Lockheed test pilot Steve Belgeau as Reconnaissance Systems Officer. After flight testing it was delivered to the 9th Strategic Reconnaissance Wing at Beale AFB, California, on 3 September 1970. The aircraft made its last flight on 11 April 1976 and was removed from flying status on 24 June 1976 with only 556.4 flight hours, not including the 180.9 hours accumulated on the aircraft as YF-12A S/N 60-6934. It was then processed for long-term storage at the Lockheed plant in Palmdale, California.


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Gravity....its not just a good idea, its the law.
Author:  Horrido [ 07 Sep 2006, 20:43 ]
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The C was never flown past mach, because it was described as not able to fly straight and "not quite square" in terms of assembly.

Crushed under his own mental block...
Author:  M21 Sniper [ 07 Sep 2006, 21:10 ]
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Im not sure where i could even find those pix now Ev. Gio hosted them for me at the time, and i have long since lost the link.

<img src="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b343/m21sniper/RecoverAgentWIDEsmall.jpg" border=0>
<font color=yellow><i><b>"One way or another, your car is coming with me."</b></i></font id=yellow>
Author:  gunnut [ 07 Sep 2006, 21:13 ]
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This is kinda embarrassing, but how do I post pictures?

<img src="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b343/m21sniper/Aardvark.jpg" border=0>

Edited to add Photo by M21sniper
Author:  M21 Sniper [ 07 Sep 2006, 21:16 ]
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If you're using a hosting service like photobucket(which i highly reccomend- its also free), just change the letters in the "IMG" and "/IMG" to lower case, ie, "img" and "/img"

Here...i'll edit a pic into your last post. Then just click your edit post button(little paper and pencil icon, 3d from left on your little control panel above each post), and you can see how it works. :)

PS: I took that pic out at hill too. Horrido, Dice, Mark, and me were all there that day. :)

<img src="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b343/m21sniper/RecoverAgentWIDEsmall.jpg" border=0>
<font color=yellow><i><b>"One way or another, your car is coming with me."</b></i></font id=yellow>
Author:  HogDog [ 07 Sep 2006, 22:16 ]
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They have a blackbird out here in Seattle, too. They also have a mostly-stripped version of the cockpit you can sit in. What is amazing to me, is it is so tight in there, I could barely turn around to reach the controls at my elbows, let alone if I was wearing a space suit!

Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a GAU-8A at your side, kid...--Hawg Solo
Author:  Horrido [ 07 Sep 2006, 22:55 ]
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The one in Seattle is the sole-surviving (of two) M-21 carrier for the D-21 drone, converted from the single-seat A-12 by removing electronics from behind the cockpit to install a systems officer station. Flush tail, pointier nose.

Crushed under his own mental block...
Author:  gunnut [ 08 Sep 2006, 12:02 ]
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<img src="http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k281/blurr91/DSCN0054.jpg" border=0>

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Author:  engineguy [ 08 Sep 2006, 12:09 ]
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My first time seeing this. What a weird looking bird it is.

"Those who have long enjoyed such privileges as we enjoy forget, in time, that men have died to win them."
Franklin Deleano Roosevelt
Author:  gunnut [ 08 Sep 2006, 12:34 ]
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Some closeups.

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Author:  Ice Pirate [ 08 Sep 2006, 13:18 ]
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SCHWEEEEEEEEEEET An SR-71 with a rumble seat.<img src=newicons/bounce.gif border=0 align=middle>

Thanks for the pics Gunnut!

"Slow is Fast - Fast is Slow"
Author:  Horrido [ 09 Sep 2006, 12:27 ]
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That's not an SR-71B, that's the A-12B, the sole two-seat A-12, called the "Titanium Goose". I can tell because it has the straight nose chine, a different-shaped rear canopy, and it doesn't have a tail cone. Kelly Johnson sat in that very rear seat for his supersonic flight. It is an utter and inexusable travesty that that aircraft is outside exposed to the elements.

AWESOME, awesome pics there, Gunnut. Very much appreciated.

Crushed under his own mental block...

Edited by - Horrido on Sep 09 2006 11:31

Edited by - Horrido on Sep 09 2006 11:33
Author:  HogDog [ 10 Sep 2006, 21:28 ]
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Long ago I was at the Hill AFB museum, talking to a "friend" of an SR71 pilot, who, to make a long story short, said it flew from Iceland to Utah in 20 minutes. I figure that to be roughly 17k MPH.... I have also seen documentaries that state the only thing holding the SR's speed back when it first flew was the skin, they didn't want it to "melt off". Well since then, our technology in composite skins has dramatically leaped, so I was wondering if any of you have any thoughts on that? I know the shuttle hits that speed, so it is possible, though that is rocket engine fueled. But I hear those ram engines are remarkable..... While I can't say I am a 17k MPH believer, I will say: Maybe, Maybe not...?

Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a GAU-8A at your side, kid...--Hawg Solo
Author:  gifted [ 10 Sep 2006, 21:50 ]
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I always thought a hybrid engine based off the design would work to power a spaceplane.

Ignorance may be bliss, but it sure ain't fun!
Author:  boomer [ 10 Sep 2006, 23:14 ]
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4,000 miles in 20 minutes? not bloody likely!
That would be 12,000MPH, roughly Mach 18, not doable in the atmosphere and the SR doesnt have enough room to carry oxidiser along with a fuel in order to fly in space even if that were the ONLY problem.
Was that "friend" L. Ron Hubbard by any chance lolol

Just cross out "machine gun" and write in "pizza"
Author:  gunnut [ 11 Sep 2006, 11:06 ]
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Hey don't mock the ability of spaceships that look like DC-8s without engines.
Author:  Horrido [ 11 Sep 2006, 18:30 ]
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Gunnut, do you happen to remember what the plaque in front of it claims it is?

Crushed under his own mental block...
Author:  HogDog [ 11 Sep 2006, 20:45 ]
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No, actually the friend was Tom Cruise!! <img src=newicons/anim_puke.gif border=0 align=middle> <img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle>
Pardon my ignorance, but what prevents 12k MPH in the atmosphere? I have read accounts from actual pilots that said when they put their glove near the cockpit window, it would start to smolder, so I figure the plane gets good and hot....but we have material that can take that heat. And I never trust "publicly released capabilities" of anything. They say Mach 3+.....well that just means it goes faster than Mach 3.....doesn't say HOW MUCH faster!

Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a GAU-8A at your side, kid...--Hawg Solo
Author:  boomer [ 12 Sep 2006, 02:14 ]
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Yes they do, Mach 3.5 lolol
The Space Shuttle comes in at Mach 25 or so and decellerating like a crazy mofo the whole time, trading speed for heat by way of friction. RCC and ceramics are the only things that will take that heat and only for a fairly short time, the Shuttle is covered in both of them. It takes a whole lotta power to over come the friction/drag at those kinds of speeds if you want to sustain that speed.
btw the Aurora contrail has been spotted again, this time in New Mexico by a civil engineer and his wife, a 25 year employee of LockMart.

Just cross out "machine gun" and write in "pizza"
Author:  Dutchy [ 12 Sep 2006, 03:59 ]
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The national airmuseum in Dayton had the Drone 21, for those who intrested in that I place the link.
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsh ... asp?id=396

Further I want to say that the Blackbird (even I never saw it flying, only in musea) is an impressive plane. Was last in Duxford (England) and there was one in the museum, American hall.

Salute Dutchy
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