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Author:  boomer [ 17 Feb 2004, 22:01 ]
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this link is to the F-35, but look around the other links

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/

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Author:  tritonal [ 17 Feb 2004, 23:12 ]
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I know this site very well; it's very good!
I'm just waiting for my Super Hornet question to be answered.

Author:  boomer [ 17 Feb 2004, 23:42 ]
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and that would be?

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Author:  tritonal [ 18 Feb 2004, 00:15 ]
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Super cruise, my main interest so far.
If anyone can theorize, it would be those guys.

I saw the write-up on the F-35 and I was amazed to see that the Raptor had 25,000lbs of internal fuel! I read on a site devoted to the Raptor that it only had 13,666lbs.





Edited by - tritonal on Feb 17 2004 11:21 PM

Author:  boomer [ 18 Feb 2004, 00:38 ]
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13,000 would be WAYYY low. F-15 has around 13,400 and you know the F-22 engines (supercruise or not) pass a lot of gas.

The Boeing JSF entry carried 18,000lb and it was ALL in the wing, no fusalage fuel at all.

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Author:  tritonal [ 18 Feb 2004, 00:45 ]
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I remember reading the text over and over to see if I missed anything about the internal fuel weight; I didn't.
They must of meant in each wing. Seeing that the Raptor has a wing area of 840sq ft, that can be accomplished.

Author:  30mike-mike [ 18 Feb 2004, 06:16 ]
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One can't help but notice that there is no mention or comparison to our A-10.

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Author:  tritonal [ 18 Feb 2004, 08:15 ]
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That's because the A-10 has NO comparison, but you needn't me to make that assumption.<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

I didn't know that the C-version JSF didn't have an internal gun; that was news to me.

Author:  a10stress [ 18 Feb 2004, 08:58 ]
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
I saw the write-up on the F-35 and I was amazed to see that the Raptor had 25,000lbs of internal fuel! I read on a site devoted to the Raptor that it only had 13,666lbs.
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Weights and fuel fractions for the F-22 are closely held information. Don't bet on what you read on internet sites. They are just speculating.

Author:  tritonal [ 18 Feb 2004, 09:43 ]
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Didn't know that info on the Raptor was so secret, thanx for the input.






*A-10 Stress, May I ask you something that was curious to me: Why did you erase all your previous posts before you went "on-leave" from our beloved WT? Those were very interesting reads.

Author:  30mike-mike [ 18 Feb 2004, 10:26 ]
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>That's because the A-10 has NO comparison, but you needn't me to make that assumption.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>
Exactly my point, tritinol!<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Author:  boomer [ 18 Feb 2004, 11:58 ]
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B and C will get that stealthy centerline pod, they may be using the space on them for ECM rather than gun.

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