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The more one researchs the Raptor the more evident it becomes that not only does the F-22 do all that was claimed, but MORE.

It truly is all that we'd hoped for and then some.

"Molon labe".
Leonidas, King of Sparta,
Thermopylae, 480 B.C.

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More is possible. The real hard stuff still needs demonstration...Aim-120 shots from the main bay while rolling at 100 deg/sec. Very scary.

The LAU-142 is only used for the AIM-120. I believe the JDAM is hung off the BRU-46. The external stores pylon has a BRU-47 in it that we only use to carry tanks. The pyros are not used now but it could be activated to carry something else. Ideas?

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Burkes are fine ships but even so not what was envisioned the IIA is a compromise that really stretches the basic design to its upper limits. They were late getting into production and the program was strung out another 10 years longer on top of the initial delay. Plus if they hadnt continued to build Burkes they would have built nothing at all.

Spruances are gone prematurely.

DDX is even worse programatically.

LCS is up in the air.

OHPs have no weapons or sensors worth a hoot unless you count the organic helo capability. Id feel extremely vulnerable if I was on one.

And I havent even brought up the Virginia SSN, LPD 17, AOE, JCC and AKE programs that have been delayed, stretched out,reduced or face even possible termination.

Or aircraft programs like the P-3, S-3, E-2 replacements which are in the same boat so to speak.

No sorry Sniper when it comes to PR the USN is by their own admission ineffectual.

BTW 84 AEGIS ships 22 Ticos and 62 Burkes. Not bad unless you consider the oldest will be 20 years old by the time the last is commissioned. With no serious mid-life upgrades planned that I know of.

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It has been. I believe i posted the Videos. It has been Checked up to 6 Full rate (roll)

"The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader

I remember seeing that video when you posted it mudd. Should still be in the archives.

"Molon labe".
Leonidas, King of Sparta,
Thermopylae, 480 B.C.

Rick i think the USN made a HUGE mistake in pushing for the F-18E/F at all. They had so many other needs, and damned capable F-14s in service, i just think they spent far too much of their political capital pushing it into service despite it's huge developmental problems and shortcomings. Same is DOUBLY true for the V-22 Osprey.

The Navy has proven that it can get an unpopular or downright stupid program pushed to fruition. That the V-22 is still alive today is a testament to the ability of the Navy to get what it wants.

"Molon labe".
Leonidas, King of Sparta,
Thermopylae, 480 B.C.

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It has been. I believe i posted the Videos. It has been Checked up to 6 Full rate (roll)

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I haven't seen the videos, but maybe they are the rolling AIM-9 shots. That is different because they are fired off rails that are put out in the airstream from the side bays on trapeze contraptions. AIM-120's are thrown out of the main bays by the LAU-142's and they fly free after 9 inches of stroke. The 100 deg/sec roll rate is not the aircraft limit, it is only the launch limit. I don't want any misunderstanding. The jet is capable of somewhat more<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Edited by - a10stress on Nov 18 2004 1:12 PM

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Based on the vids i've seen of the Raptor it's roll rate exceeds 360deg/sec, lol.

"Molon labe".
Leonidas, King of Sparta,
Thermopylae, 480 B.C.

Sniper the USN didnt push the Superbug. They wanted upgraded F-14s. Cheney said no way, no way, no way. He was the one pushing the bug. This decision also had the effect of prematurely taking the A-6 out of service after recent and expensive upgrades including re-winging.

Dont get me wrong the USN leadership has been at fault in many areas but to blame them for the bug is untrue. Unfortunately at the time they were and still arent in a position to buy the F/A-22 or anything like it and probably never will be. Watch: They will cut their F-35 buy drastically to divert funds to UCAV development for better or worse.

They simply are in no postition to buy expensive ships AND expensive manned aircraft now or in the forseeable future.

Raptor Watch, December 20, 2004

<b>Succcessful rolling AIM-120 missile shot:</b> Raptor 4002 successfully released an AIM-120 air-to-air missile during a 1.6 hour test mission from Edwards Air Force Base on Dec. 10. The shot was accomplished at 20,000 feet and .7 Mach while the aircraft was rolling.

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I wonder if this was the same aircraft that just bought the farm today?
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