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<b>F/A-22s Return to Flight</b> (Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2005)
[PRESS RELEASE -- Secretary of the Air Force, Directorate of Public Affairs, Jan. 6, 2005]

LANGLEY AIR FORCE BASE, Va. - The Air Force has cleared the F/A-22 Raptor to resume flight operations today following a comprehensive review of procedural and engineering data in the wake of the Dec. 20 accident at Nellis AFB, NV, that caused a temporary halt to flying the most technologically advanced fighter in the world.

The investigation of the accident continues. However, enough information is available for Air Force officials to be highly confident in the design, testing, and development of the F/A-22s. With approximately 7,000 flight hours already logged in the Raptor and an overwhelmingly positive safety record when compared to previous aircraft development programs, the decision was made that flight operations can be safely resumed.

No one was injured in the Dec. 20 accident.


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PILOT IN F/A-22 CRASH NEVER HAD CONTROL: Based on preliminary data from last month's crash of an F/A-22 at Nellis AFB, Pentagon leaders believe unofficially that the cause was not pilot error but rather, as some expected, a glitch in the digital flight control system. Everything appeared normal on the takeoff roll. But once aerodynamic forces lifted the aircraft off the runway, the pilot had "no control over pitch, yaw or roll," says an official with insight into the program. "It appears that it will be easy to correct and may even be procedural. But the pilot received no warning of a failure. The system appeared to be operating properly until it got into the air. But then the controls electronically locked up." The pilot punched out and survived without injury. (Aviation Week & Space Technology)



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Dontcha just love growing pains? lol

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A good friend of mine says that happens on airbus's, It is almost always the Control Column going bad, they even have spares to fly with. 16's are that way Minus the inflight oh Shit Kit. Unscrew the old one slap in a new one. All is well. <img src=newicons/tard.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Normally I would Comment on this....

Vette your thought process is Defective, nothing in your background brings credible knowledge base to these discussions. Your as coordinated as a Cut and paste Word Processor. Then again the last time i Checked we didnt have openings for one, since Boomer filled the position years ago.

Last thing this Raptor patch Wearer is going to do is Rebuttle a kid that Got Booted during his First term enlistment in the Corps for being a Broke Dick Sleep Walker

...although.... If Your looking to fill the Festival Virgin Quota, We had a position open up recently.

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So has the "Cut and paste Word Processor" slot been re-filled yet? lol

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U back from vacation yet Boomstick?

Were fresh out of reading material here!

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got a terrible cold keepin me down and threatining to explode my head so all I can do is sleep and surf a little, then it'll be back to the cyber mine/garage whichever needs me most on a given day lol

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From Air Force News Service;

2/1/2005 - WASHINGTON -- An Air Force F/A-22 Raptor will be a highlight during pre-game festivities at Super Bowl XXXIX where the New England Patriots and Philadelphia Eagles face each other Feb. 6.

The other military services will also take part, but Airmen will play a leading role in one of the nation's premier sport competitions, this year being held in Jacksonville, Fla.

Super Bowl Sunday will begin with a series of pre-game concerts and a pre-game opening ceremony.

The pre-game ceremony of every Super Bowl has included the singing of the national anthem; this year the Air Force Academy's 25-voice Cadet Chorale will team up with the Naval Academy Glee Club, West Point Choir and Coast Guard Academy to perform the anthem. It will be the first time all four service academies have performed together since former President Richard Nixon's 1973 inauguration ceremony. The last time the Cadet Chorale sang at a Super Bowl was in 1972.

A joint color guard, which includes an Airman from Moody Air Force Base, Ga., will present the national colors.

At the conclusion of the anthem, two Raptors will team up with two Navy F-18 Super Hornets in a joint-formation flyover.

"What better way to showcase America's newest super jet than in front of a stadium crowd of 80,000 fans and more than 144 million television viewers," said Wendy Varhegyi, Air Force community relations chief.

Air Force involvement will not be limited to pre-game ceremonies.

Recruiters will be on-site to discuss career opportunities in the Air Force. They will have the "Cross Into the Blue" theater trailer along with several NFL athletes available for autograph sessions.

Recruiters have been on-site since Jan. 31 and will remain until the day after the game as co-sponsors of the ESPN Radio Remote/webcam at a Jacksonville-area hotel. Benefits include public-service announcements, on-air interviews, webcam time and on-site advertising. This is the third year Air Force Recruiting Service has sponsored the ESPN remote.

Five pilots from the 347th Rescue Wing at Moody will have a display as part of the series of events and displays surrounding the stadium.

Airmen will take part in another pre-game day activity with an emphasis on sports. They will be part of two joint-service teams competing in the NFL Alumni Super Bowl of Golf Showcase on Feb. 4.

Although most of the Air Force involvement will likely only be seen by those who attend the game, fans watching the game on television will get a glimpse of professional Airmen.

Six Airmen, along with four Marines took part in the filming of an Anheuser-Busch "Salute to the Military" commercial expected to air during the Super Bowl coverage.

Air Force volunteers will also help setup and tear down of the sets for the halftime performance featuring singing legend Paul McCartney.

In all, the Airmen will be among more than 2,000 military volunteers assisting with various aspects of the Super Bowl.

"Participating in the Super Bowl and the events leading up to it is an honor for the Air Force," Mrs. Varhegyi said. "It's a way to say ‘thank you’ to the troops, honor the military and instill patriotism among the fans."


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<i>At the conclusion of the anthem, two Raptors will team up with two Navy F-18 Super Hornets in a joint-formation flyover.

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I'm totally cool with that, but some here may not like that flying juxtaposition.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
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I like it. We have the choice right there. Choice A is the best in the world and will dominate air warfare for the next 30 years; Choice B is good enough to be competitive with everybody else now, but cost half as much as choice A. Ler 'er rip.

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Damn Straight!


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'Caught the fly-by. Since it was dusk, they were somewhat obscured. It was real cool to see em side by side; I can't wait to see em duel each other.


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'Caught the fly-by. Since it was dusk, they were somewhat obscured. It was real cool to see em side by side; I can't wait to see em duel each other.


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Let me preview that for you:
Control: "begin engagement"
F-22: "fox 3"
F-18: "ready to begin"
Control: "confirm kill on SuperHornet"
F-18: "so where was he this time?"

LOL F-22 is an overmatch for anything BVR, low and slow it might be interesting for a minit or so with SH but the F-22 wingloading and TV wont spend much time getting a shot. Helmet mounted sights for IRs would even it up some.
A "light" SU-30MKI vs a "heavy" F-22 in "guns only" might get interesting.

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Fox-3?
Since when did the Raptor fire Phonixes!!?
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In BVR, the SH has some pretty decent electronic guts as well. One navy guy told me that the Raptor would have to abandon some of its superiorities. Although, that coul've been just braggadocio.


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Fox 3 is the call for an active homing missile launch... a.k.a. SLAMMER, AMRAAM, AIM-120... need I go on? sheesh...

Super Hornet will not be able to aquire the F/A-22 until well within the no escape zone of the AMRAAM and as such would already be dead.

I highly douubt that ANY US Naval Aviator would make any such claim you list above, as it is ridiclous...


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<i>Fox 3 is the call for an active homing missile launch... a.k.a. SLAMMER, AMRAAM, AIM-120... need I go on? sheesh...</i>

Last I heard the SLAMMER was a FOX-4, could be now a "3" since the
-54 was recently retired.

And Ummm, CAG?... Stop. Sarcasm really isn't your thing, guy.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I highly doubt that ANY US Naval Aviator would make any such claim you list above, as it is ridiclous... <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

I didn't say it was a Naval Aviator, said it was a Navy "guy"; it was a non flight-rated officer to be exact. And, I also implied that I was doubtful of his claim. Again, you're not paying attention and I suspect your trying to start a flame.

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No, stop altogether.










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Their are methods To Post a well Enough Loft, That Once you the deploying aircraft F pole. and Guiding the Missile Via Data link. The Target bandit is Just going to blowup, Becasue it doesnt know when to Crank/notch. The amraam is very Flexible. You are not required to "Activate the seeker". Add this capability with the New Data Share resource to the raptor, and it is not a fair High Noon Shoot out. But these things were allready implemented in the Eagle as of late. The only disadvantage to the eagle is that it can be seen, there fore allowing an advesary to manuever. The raptor removes the bandits defense strategy, or the need to be defensive, casue it will never know your there.

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That was intelligent and useful Mudd.

But it certainly is what Ive come to expect.

Mindless babbling with no intent to either enlighten or inform.


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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>New Data Share resource to the raptor<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

Can you elaborate on that Mudd? Are you talking something beyond the Link-16?


tritonal,


Fox One - indication of the launch of a SARH AAM
Fox Two - indication of the launch of an IR AAM
Fox Three - indication of the launch of an active radar AAM

Sorry if I came across as to aggressive, no flame was my intent...


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<i>Sorry if I came across as to aggressive, no flame was my intent...</i>

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