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| Author: | chadrewsky [ 23 Mar 2003, 12:30 ] |
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Maybe when the dust clears from all of this, some answers will be brought to light for his family, and the U.S. Naval Aviation community............. God Speed Spike! If your not having fun, your not doing it right! |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 24 Mar 2003, 17:24 ] |
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I hope so too, and i hope it doesn't turn out the US Gov't was less than thorough in the initial investigations. Onward to Baghdad!!! |
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| Author: | jetman [ 24 Mar 2003, 17:58 ] |
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Yeah i hope that all the POW's especially Lt. CMDR. Micheal Speicher will make it out ok and unharmed. i heard a report saying that Lt. Cmdr. Speicher was just spotted in Baghdad earlier this month. People here are hoping for the best because he went to school here i believe. |
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| Author: | EzyJack [ 25 Mar 2003, 15:41 ] |
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[quote] I hope so too, and i hope it doesn't turn out the US Gov't was less than thorough in the initial investigations. ---------- Never understood why we didn't investigate better. Am pretty sure they promoted him to Capt. now. There is a twist too. His best buddy ended up marrying his wife. Back when they had declared him KIA. Am hoping all of our POWs come home in one piece. Jack |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 25 Mar 2003, 16:15 ] |
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Sort of like Pearl Harbor the movie eh? Distasteful. Onward to Baghdad!!! |
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| Author: | Horrido [ 25 Mar 2003, 21:00 ] |
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Honey! I'm HOME!...WTF!<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_8ball.gif border=0 align=middle> A sucking chest wound is life's way of telling you to slow down... |
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| Author: | poke [ 25 Mar 2003, 21:10 ] |
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Stuff like that happened to a number of the earlier POWs in Vietnam, didn't it? Gone for 7 years and come home to find out your family went on with life. I can kind of understand from their POV, but man, that's really shitty. "See that green switch? Flip it down." |
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| Author: | EzyJack [ 26 Mar 2003, 05:30 ] |
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[quote] Stuff like that happened to a number of the earlier POWs in Vietnam, didn't it? Gone for 7 years and come home to find out your family went on with life. I can kind of understand from their POV, but man, that's really shitty. ------------ Yeah and then many ended up divorcing. Life goes on. It wasn't like the families of POWs had much support from the Pentagon. If they were living on base, they were ordered off the base in 30 days. Name the last time you have read about MIAs in Nam? Jack |
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| Author: | troung [ 26 Mar 2003, 22:48 ] |
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This is the F/A-18 pilot whowas shot down the 1st night by a MiG-25PD correct? Not to be rude but I feel this guy is dead. |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 26 Mar 2003, 22:57 ] |
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Yeah. Onward to Baghdad!!! |
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| Author: | Hogdawg [ 27 Mar 2003, 14:10 ] |
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I wouldn't think Lt. Cmdr. Speicher's friend would marry his wife because he lusted for her before Speicher was MIA. It probably was for other reasons. |
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| Author: | EzyJack [ 27 Mar 2003, 19:19 ] |
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[quote] I wouldn't think Lt. Cmdr. Speicher's friend would marry his wife because he lusted for her before Speicher was MIA. It probably was for other reasons. ------------ He was carried as a KIA for a long time. Yeah shotdown by the Mig-25 opening night in the Gulf War. Jack |
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| Author: | chadrewsky [ 08 Apr 2003, 21:32 ] |
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Thought a SAM bagged him? If your not having fun, your not doing it right! |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 08 Apr 2003, 23:20 ] |
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nope, it was a Mig 25. "US Army Snipers- One shot, one kill" |
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| Author: | joedog [ 09 Apr 2003, 17:53 ] |
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I'll never be able to forgive former CJCS Shalikashvili, a former Ranger, for nixing the idea of sending a special ops team to the crash site when it was discovered. So much for not leaving a man behind... All the way... |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 09 Apr 2003, 21:32 ] |
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That the little guy? Wow, i didn't realize he was a weasel. "US Army Snipers- One shot, one kill" |
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| Author: | joedog [ 09 Apr 2003, 21:50 ] |
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He was concerned about the embarassment should they be caught and the danger to the S.O. team. He didn't think it was worth the risk to recover "bones". Show me ONE person in uniform who wouldn't have taken the risk. Other then him,it turned out. This is the same guy who wouldn't go to the wall for the commander on the ground in Somalia, when he requested armor and AC-130's. The administration thought it would be to intimadating. They're SUPPOSED to be intimadating. He should have pushed it with the administration. Atleast try to look out for your commander on the ground. That's my opinion. All the way... |
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| Author: | chadrewsky [ 09 Apr 2003, 22:03 ] |
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We seemed to learn from those SNAFU's......cause we are not making the same mistakes in the current war in Iraq. We are fighting to win, and to win with whatever force we deem neccessary. If your not having fun, your not doing it right! |
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| Author: | ThePatriot [ 09 Apr 2003, 22:09 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> He was concerned about the embarassment should they be caught and the danger to the S.O. team. He didn't think it was worth the risk to recover "bones". Show me ONE person in uniform who wouldn't have taken the risk. Other then him,it turned out. This is the same guy who wouldn't go to the wall for the commander on the ground in Somalia, when he requested armor and AC-130's. The administration thought it would be to intimadating. They're SUPPOSED to be intimadating. He should have pushed it with the administration. Atleast try to look out for your commander on the ground. That's my opinion. All the way... <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> I was the Senior ALO on the ground in Somalia. Madelin Albright and William Cohen where a severe sliver in our backsides. I could write volumes on how the Clinton Administration ruined all credibility for the US armed forces to conducts its mission there. We had full control and knocked 27 waring clans to 4 in less than 2 weeks. Then clinton came in office and turned us over to the U.N. It was chaos after all the restrictions came upon us. |
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| Author: | joedog [ 09 Apr 2003, 22:36 ] |
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Do I remember wrong or did Bush send the better part of a Marine division to Somalia, only to have Clinton turn it over to the UN and thin OUR force down to taskforce Ranger? All the way... |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 10 Apr 2003, 13:49 ] |
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You remember right Joedog. "US Army Snipers- One shot, one kill" |
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| Author: | Horrido [ 13 Apr 2003, 03:06 ] |
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And it was neither Albright nor Cohen in office during 1993, but they were still, sadly, serious IMPROVEMENTS over Warren Cristopher as Sec. State and Les Aspin as Sec. Def, who were Klinton's goons during the Somalia campaign. There're reasons we want to keep the UN out Iraq. Somalia and Yugoslavia are all-too perfect examples as to why. A sucking chest wound is life's way of telling you to slow down... |
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| Author: | M21 Sniper [ 13 Apr 2003, 05:27 ] |
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Aspen....that's the dude that offed himself in a DC park, right? "US Army Snipers- One shot, one kill" |
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| Author: | wayne2010 [ 13 Apr 2003, 08:13 ] |
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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Aspen....that's the dude that offed himself in a DC park, right? <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> I think you are talking about Vince Foster who I always thought was Hillary boy friend. |
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