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...in his pink underwear with \"I love NY\". There was a surprise attack and he (19year old soldier) hadn't enough time to change.

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Forget the Pink under wear,

That Red Shirt, I'd be Far away from him.

Goose

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\"Live Free Or Die\"

I guess it beats \"Tighty Whities\"

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Violence may not be the best option, but it IS an option

A man's got to be comfortable when he sleeps.

I always thought soldiers went commando.

Coach

I did, lol.

Yeah, it kinda screams "bullet magnet", doesn't it?

CBS deemed this important enough to grab a 2 minute segment on last nights evening news. Must have been a really slow news day.

OC

It really doesn't matter what you are wearing once the enemy finds you. That's why cover is so much more important than concealment in combat.

Coach

I can Dig a DEEP HOLE REAL FAST


Goose

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We got issued OD undies and tees.

That soldier is out of uniform. If i was his NCO, i would have article 15'd his ass.

is it bad that I had the same thought? maybe if they'd been something other than pink I could have let it go....

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\"One of you is gonna fall and die, and I'm not cleaning it up\"

Given the subject, perhaps a poor choice of words Snipe.



OC

Maybe I've mellowed too much in my years, but handing out Article 15's in a shooting war zone wouldn't really do anybody any good. It'd just demoralize the deserving recipeant, become a joke to the rest of the unit and make the supervisor look like a REMF.

If I'd been his supervisor, I'd pull him asside at an appropriate time, explain that bright colors and hot lead are a really bad idea for both you and the rest of your unit, and assign some extra details to punctuate the point.

I just don't see what additional paperwork and fines are going to mean to someone who's getting shot at on a regular basis.

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Violence may not be the best option, but it IS an option

The one in the middle is wearing sneakers, don't forget to blow it out of proportion for him too. And I bet the guy on the right didn't shave, ooooh boy he's gonna get it now.

Yeah its kind of easy to pick red out of a background, maybe a little roll in the dirt would camo him up a bit.

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LOL....good point.

That guy is causing extreme danger to the other soldiers at his fighting post with the red shirt, which would draw all kinds of fire.

And the troops -do- get OD undies and tees issued. There is absolutely no good military reason for him to be prancing around in the pink/red outfit.

Sorry, i'm gonna stick by my guns here. I'd reccomend a summary Article 15 if he was one of my troops.

Red and Pink, yes not smart but someone could of sent him the stuff as a present and was taking a picture or whatever and got \"Caught\" .
Atleast he HAD shorts on.

But the more I thought about it, Coach was right, They already have that place \"Zero'ed in, probably meter by Meter if its in the \"Viper\" area .

Those guys could be invisable but if their not under cover the outcome is the same,

I wore white socks, and I figured if they were that F-ING CLOSE
and could see my white socks, they would be dead or I would be.

Goose

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\"Live Free Or Die\"

I've got to agree with snipe on all counts. these guys are in a CZ and IMO shouldn't have brought any clothing that wasn't issued. I could almost care less if wearing a bright shirt or noticable shorts got the offending troop killed, but the fact is its just as likely to get the guy next to him killed.

also: the pic looks staged to me, the Camera guy is much more exposed than I'd care to be if a real firefight was in the offing.

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\"One of you is gonna fall and die, and I'm not cleaning it up\"

You guys are over reacting. They are in their camp returning fire from behind cover. They're not out on patrol.

Besides, the enemy knows where they are, they could be wearing Bozo outfits or ninja suits and it wouldn't matter.

Coach

Excatly! Besides, at least he has on his vest and helmet. Not to mention he is there helping his buddies return fire instead of hiding in his quarters. I would rather have someone with me willing to fight than a loser that won't come out of a bunker.

Here's your answer Snipe. A bit too long to post here.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30887233/?GT1=43001

OC

Spend some time in the infantry on a perimeter and tell me about over-reacting Sir.

Sorry, you got this one wrong.

He should have been sleeping in his ISSUED OD skivvies and Tee. He's not there to look fashionable. These are simple facts. The human eye is attracted to bright colors, and red is far more easily seen through haze and smoke than camo is....that troop would be far easier to zero in on from a great distance than one in OD.

I'm completely right here, from a tactical standpoint, and i would have article 15'd his ass. Of course if he was my troop he wouldn't be sleeping in non issued articles of clothing at all. Because he'd be trained right to begin with.

Uh, no you wouldn't. The authority to prefer charges, offer and punish under Article 15 of the UCMJ rest soley with the COMMANDER, enlisted men do not 15 other enlisted men. You could have recommended he be 15'd but you personally couldn't do it.

Obviously.

However, \"I'll article 15 your ass\" is a very common saying among Army NCO's. The commander must sign the paperwork, but it's the NCO that reccomends it and makes it happen.

You know this top. If i went to the CO and reccomended an Art 15 for this stupidity, barring some sort of PR interference, it would be as good as done. It is totally inexcusable to be traipsing around a perimeter in a pink and red outfit.

All soldiers are issued perfectly functional OD green tees and boxers or briefs. This is inexcusable.