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Just been visiting ACIG, and i am wondering why you let that guy Kurt just absolutely trash and slander the A-10 so badly without a peep.

Cuz, im dissapointed.

I for one was not about to let anyone talk about the grunts like he does without reprisal. What a bitter, bitter fellow he is.

For anyone interested, here is the thread in question....

http://www.acig.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php ... =4&start=0

Long distance- The next best thing to being there.

That's a private forum, won't even let me read the messages unless I'm signed up.

The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his. -General George Patton

Sniper, I've battled with Kurt for a few years now and he's been banned from sites like SimHQ.com and Frugals world because there is no talking to him. In fact he was banned from SimHQ because of a thread with Andy Bush (X A-10 pilot) where he was debateing, with Andy, on fighter (and A-10) tatics and it got nasty!

When asked Kurt will never tell where his indepth knowledge comes from or why his views are more valad than anyone elses. He will just contune posting his loooong posts ignoring any requests on his background. I just don't have time for it, check out this thread or do a google search on his name.....

BTW the guy who started this thread is a Hornet driver (Jarhead)


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Ugly but well hung!

Edited by - Dice on Feb 21 2003 06:55 AM

Dice, thanx for the heads up on this guy.

I felt like jumping through the screen and ripping his lungs out when i read his statement "A single airframe is not worth losing over some grunts, and any pilot that does should be courtmarshalled"

WTF?

BR, it takes 24 hours to access the private forums, after you register, you should be able to get into them tonight.


Long distance- The next best thing to being there.

SORRY,
BUT I'M UNDER THE WEATHER SO I MIGHT SOUND "NUMB"

BUT THIS GUY HAS NEVER BEEN IN THE SERVICE,LET ALONE THE BOYSCOTTS,THE CLOSEST HE'S EVER BEEN TO A MILITARY JET OF ANY KIND IS IN WALMART IN THE MATCHBOX SECTION.
I HAVE FOUND OUT SURFING AND SUCH,YOU CAN BE BOOK SMART,QUOTE BOOKS AND USING THEM IN A THREAD,BUT UNLESS YOU KNOW FIRST HAND OR HAVE A UNDERSTANDING FROM A DIFFERENT PART
[bYOU CANT DO NOTHING BUT REPEAT THE SAME OLD CRAP OVER AND OVER!AND YOU CANT DEVIATE FROM THE SCRIPT!!!!

WE SEE IT HERE,SOMEONE TRIES TO QUOTE BOOKS AND STUFF LIKE IT WAS FIRST HAND ACCOUNTS BUT IN THE END IT SHOWS.

BUT ONE THING IS FOR SURE A SINGLE ENGINE AIRFRAME IS WORTH SAVING A FEW GRUNTS!!!!!!!!!!!!! BESIDES THE PILOTS WOULDNT HAVE IT ANYOTHER WAY THATS THE DIFFEREANCE FROM BOOK FACTS AND REAL LIFE

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GOOSE- It is no wonder i consider you a brother.(As i consider many vets).

You SO get it brother.

Long distance- The next best thing to being there.

Thanks for the ACIG site link Sniper. I registered and will check it out.

As for the Cost vs Human life aspect.

Any American on the battlefield is worth any risk or cost. Period.



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"Work Hard, Party Hard, Hardly Sleep"

I OWE IT ALL TO PFIZER PAIN KILLERS!!!!!!

RAVEN ITS ALL 5% SMARTS AND 95% BSING!!!!!

BESIDES IF YOU ASK CJ,I'M WRONG ALL THE TIME!!!! SO I GET LUCKY ONCE IN AWHILE.
BUT YOU KNOW AND FEEL IN YOUR HEART WHAT EVERYONE FEELS HERE,
ITS NOT YOUR JOB TO PROTECT SOMEONE ELSE,ITS YOUR DUTY THAT YOU AND MANY OTHERS HAVE CHOOSEN TO PROTECT YOUR FELLOW BROTHER AND SISTER IN ARMS AND YOUR COUNTRY.AND YOU WOULD WITHOUT THINKING WOULD GIVE UP YOUR OWN FOR THEM.
THIS KURT LOOSER SHOWED HIS ASS WHEN HE SAID "IT WASNT WORTH A SINGLE ENGINE AIRFRAME"
THATS HOW YOU KNOW!

SNIPE YOU ALWAYS HAVE MY BACK BRO AND I HAVE YOURS!!!!!!

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I always think of it like this when I think of my friends from college working normal jobs in the real world making 150k already.....

.....if they were sitting in a board meeting at GM, IBM, Dell, etc......and a grenade was thrown into the room, they would trample each other trying to get out of the door before it went off. In any branch of the military the race would not be towards the door but to cover the explosion up with your body before anyone else gets schwacked.

There are not many work environments where that level of trust between workers exists...

That does not mean people who do not or have not served in the military are not important or are any less of an American. It just means that personally, I would rather be in that type of an environment doing that type of job, actually doing something that has meaning instead of working just as hard for a TON more money, hating what I do, living only for the weekends, working with people I do not respect, etc....It is pretty silly when military people take a holier than thou attitude but even worse when non military people who have no idea what it is like start piping up with all sorts of stupid ideas and thoughts with no care in the world about what being in the military is all about.

Luke, i agree with you 100%.
















Long distance- The next best thing to being there.

LUKE YOUR RIGHT,

I ACTUALLY SAT IN A MEETING ONE TIME BETWEEN THE UNION AND COMPANY,IT WAS RIGHT AFTER ONE OF THOSE EMPLOYEE GONE MAD SHOOTING SPREE'S SOMEWHERE.
THE COMPANY HAD STARTED TIGHTENING SECURITY.
AND THE HR BOSS WAS JOKING ABOUT WHO WOULD JUMP UP AND TAKE A BULLET,
HIS MAIN SQUEEZE OH,HIS ASSISTANT SAID "ED'S A VET HE'LL DO IT"

I LOOK AT HER AND SAID"IN THE SERVICE YOU DO IT FOR YOUR BUDDY NEXT TO YOU WITHOUT A THOUGHT,YOU WOULD DO IT TO PROTECT FAMILY AND FRIENDS WITHOUT A THOUGHT AND FOR YOUR COUNTRY WITHOUT A THOUGHT"
BUT LETS SEE NOW
1 YOUR NOT MY BUDDY
2 YOUR NOT FAMILY OR FREIND
3 YOUR NOT THIS COUNTRY

I GUESS YOU ARE NOW AN OFFICAL UN- PROTECTED TARGET!" LEARN HOW TO DUCK!




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LOL!

Oh that musta been priceless!

Long distance- The next best thing to being there.

Why was it when Dice said "Kurt" I knew the Kurt he was talking about? He used to post on the Usenet group rec.aviation.military, usually posts that were VERY long, and packed with so much jargon and acronyms that usually whatever useful info was in them was incomprehensible! I saw him get in several arguments about tatics with several ex-Air Force pilots. He dropped off there a year or two ago, and posted to the message board at Hyperscale for awhile. I haven't seen him there for some time. I wondered what happened to him.

Ted

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If there is any justice in the world he got hit by friendly fire.

Preferably a high tech JDAM.

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Why was it when Dice said "Kurt" I knew the Kurt he was talking about? He used to post on the Usenet group rec.aviation.military, usually posts that were VERY long, and packed with so much jargon and acronyms that usually whatever useful info was in them was incomprehensible! I saw him get in several arguments about tatics with several ex-Air Force pilots.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

Correct me if I'm wrong. But the bad part of that might not be arguing perse'. As opposed to the fact he's quite possibly a civy acting like he knows tactics better than those ex-pilots.
Arguing would be one thing. But not as bad if you stick to things you know.Experienced.

Example: Debating with that one Army Ranger, Grimes, about Sumatran or Columbian coffee, which is better.

Grappeling, in case of a debate, would be willing to go against a Soldier in a grappeling match to see which differing tactic works better.

Hehe. Practical jokes, the layout of a room and the best way to sneak up on someone in the dark with a can of shaving cream. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

But I assure you that I'm a firm believer in <u>never</u>:

Telling Goose the proper way to do repairs on an A-10.

Telling Roots what "E" stands for on the fuel gauge

Or tell Snipe which end the bullet comes out at.

All that will accomplish is being pictured as having a set of Donkey ears, if you catch my drift, by anyone that would be on the other side of some know-it-allism like this Kurt seems to enjoy spewing.

Putting it shortly & sweetly. Debating is ok, not knowing your limits isn't.


Liberal bastards. I fart in thier general direction--Poke

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Hunh....I'm registered and it STILL won't let me in. Anyone have any hints?

Ted

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It takes 24 hours before you can view or post there.

Long distance- The next best thing to being there.

Yeah, I read that after I posted...oops. But I got my confirmation on Saturday...maybe it just takes longer over the weekend.

Edited to add: It just let me in. I guess I should be more patient, hunh? And I'm reading that thread...<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>

Ted

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Edited by - tedg on Feb 24 2003 09:29 AM

Pretty inflammatory eh?

That guy needs a major league throttling.

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Pretty inflammatory eh?

That guy needs a major league throttling.

Long distance- The next best thing to being there.
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LOL...he's gotten a major league throttling, several times. That's how he ended up at that board.

Ted

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Pretty inflammatory eh?

That guy needs a major league throttling.

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I hammered him a few times on bad info he posted but my God it takes so long to read and reply to him it's just not worth it.

My biggest grip with him is the fact he will not say if he has ever been military or not (I don't think so) so his opinions as meaningless to me!

Ugly but well hung!