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PostPosted: 09 Dec 2003, 02:49 
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HOLLOMAN AIR FORCE BASE, N.M. (ACCNS) – It took 10 gallons of dark gray paint, five-and-a-half gallons of light gray paint and three gallons of silicon paint to give one F-117A Nighthawk here an F/A-22 Raptor-style makeover.

Lt. Col. Kevin Sullivan, Detachment 1, 53rd Test and Evaluation Group commander, asked the 49th Aircraft Maintenance Squadron corrosion flight to paint their F-117, nicknamed “the Dragon,” gray to evaluate if it will have a substantial role in daytime combat operations.

“The chief of staff wants to have a 24-hour stealth presence over future battlefields,” said Lt. Col. Buck Rogers, the Det. 1, 53rd TEG operations officer. “We know our current black paint scheme wouldn’t be a good color for daytime operations.”

Preparation for painting began Nov. 17, said Staff Sgt. Armond Cornin, 49th AMXS corrosion flight NCOIC. AMXS members worked day and night to complete the job.

With the project complete, the jet will participate in upcoming tests as part of a program called Global Strike Task Force, Colonel Rogers said. The jet will fly with the F/A-22 in several tests both locally and deployed.

The Dragon is a test-coded aircraft owned by Det. 1, 53rd TEG.

“We use the Dragon for everything from new tactics development to the evaluation of new software or hardware,” said Maj. Tre Urso, a Det. 1, 53rd TEG pilot. “Det. 1 has been involved in all the F-117 modifications and upgrades over the years. Now, we want to evaluate the feasibility of using the F-117 during daylight operations.”

According to Colonel Rogers, Air Force leadership will approve additional jets for the gray scheme only if the test results show the change is warranted.

Whether or not the rest of the jets are painted, this project is worth the time and effort spent on completing it, Major Urso said.

“It provides a great opportunity for us to learn about our daytime capabilities and limitations. It also helps us evaluate how the new paints will hold up over time and lets us measure the impact the color modification has on the maintenance troops who maintain the jet. Bottom line, we need to make sure we provide our leaders an accurate assessment of the costs and benefits involved with daytime ops and the gray paint scheme.”


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I like this : “The chief of staff wants to have a 24-hour stealth presence over future battlefields,”

Seam that we don't want any pause for the enemy !

And do you have some pics of "the dragon" ? I was bored of the black F-117...

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I guess this is a new article, but I've heard we had gray 117s for several years, not counting that camo version very early in the program.

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PostPosted: 09 Dec 2003, 13:48 
Well if they don't buy the F-15's they'll be able to buy that many more Raptors.

I mean, duh.

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here is a link to a picture of a grey F-117

http://www.af.mil/media/photodb/photos/ ... 0S-001.jpg

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the old camo F-117
<img src="http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-117-camo.jpg" border=0>

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A true "Gray Ghost", eh prkiii? Somehow doesn't look quite as sisnister, though.

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A true "Gray Ghost", eh prkiii? Somehow doesn't look quite as sisnister, though.

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I agree...she looks a little funny to me...

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the underside is SOOO broad, shadows will be a problem. A proper blend of fluorescent paint might lessen that a great deal.

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Maybe a little day-glo orange?<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>

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The best quote from the have blue program "The airforce wanted it black, Well as it turns out black is not the best color at night, But fightertpilots dont fly pastel colored airplanes. Sow e painted them black." HAHAHAHA

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PostPosted: 11 Dec 2003, 08:00 
Yeah, that was in K.Johnson's book.

The other great quote was "Dont EVER work with the navy".

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Kelly Johnson said a LOT of things including "the SR-71 had a computer capable of dropping a bowling ball into a trash can from 70,000ft" not very likely.

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You mean my new toys might be gray instead of black? I'm going ot Holloman.

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Funny, where I heard the "pastel-colored aircraft" quote was on the Discovery Channel on a program about the F-117 by an elderly gentleman with dark, sunken eyes, a wild sense of humor, a black suit, and an English accent that looked right out of the X-Files...

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