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PostPosted: 21 Jun 2004, 09:38 
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MOJAVE, California (CNN) -- Rocket plane SpaceShipOne reached an altitude above 62.5 miles (100 km) during its brief flight Monday morning, making it the first privately built craft to fly in space, controllers said.

The space plane was carried aloft to about 50,000 feet by the jet White Knight.

From there SpaceShipOne launched into space.

Shortly after, the space vehicle landed safely at the same place from which it took off.

The two craft took off together over the Mojave Desert about 9:45 a.m. ET.

It is the first private manned spaceflight in history.

As the planes taxied onto the runway of the Mojave Airport, the pilot of SpaceShipOne, Michael Melvill, and the pilot of White Knight, Brian Binnie, waved to spectators from round portholes in the two vehicles.

Chase planes followed as they gained altitude.

Once they reach the scheduled height, Melvill plans to ignite SpaceShipOne's rocket engines over the desert and bring the ship into a vertical ascent at Mach 3, or three times the speed of sound. The craft will coast in a massive arc, about 100 kilometers, or 62 miles, above the Earth.

From the cockpit, the curvature of the Earth and a thin blue line that demarcates our atmosphere will be visible against the black sky.

Melvill, then the first astronaut to pilot a private spacecraft, will experience weightlessness for about three minutes.

He will then maneuver the plane for descent.

The remote desert Mojave airport, home to the world's only civilian test flight center and a licensed spaceport, was also host to an assortment of vehicles that converged on the site from around the country.

Buses, RVs, electric scooters, small ultralights and a menagerie of other vehicles were parked in the sandy soil across from the runway.

A sense of historic anticipation was shared by many of the spectators. Some said that after waiting decades, they were finally witnessing the first steps toward spaceflight for them.

Josh Collins, 25, said he had flown from Maryland to see the attempt.

"Some people thought I was crazy, other people are jealous," he said. "I can't wait to see the launch. It's going to be historic."

Melvill, 62, a veteran test pilot, becomes the first civilian flier to earn his astronaut's wings aboard a privately financed spacecraft.

The rocket plane designed by Burt Rutan and built by his firm Scaled Composites is taking its 15th test flight -- its farthest and fastest to date.

Scaled Composites is one of 24 companies from several countries competing for the $10 million Ansari X Prize, which will go to the first privately funded group to send three people on a suborbital flight 62.5 miles (100.6 kilometers) high and repeat the feat within two weeks using the same vehicle.

The nonprofit X Prize Foundation is sponsoring the contest to promote the development of a low-cost, efficient craft for space tourism in the same way prize competitions stimulated commercial aviation in the early 20th century.

The prize is fully funded through January 1, 2005, according to the foundation's Web site.

With only veteran test pilot Melvill on board, Monday's flight is testing SpaceShipOne's ability to reach the 62.5-mile altitude, which is the internationally agreed-upon boundary of space.

Depending on the success of the initial flight, it will compete for the X Prize later in the year.

"We're hoping this will be just a repetition of the last flight, just a little faster, a little higher," said Melvill, who on May 13 flew SpaceShipOne to 212,000 feet, or a little more than 40 miles, at more than twice the speed of sound. (Full story)

The significance of the launch was hailed during a news conference Sunday at the Mojave launch site by two of the project's most enthusiastic backers: Rutan and billionaire Paul Allen, co-founder of Microsoft Corp.

"Tomorrow we will meet to add one more page to the history books," Allen said. "[Private space flight] will undoubtedly lead to unprecedented new endeavors in the years to come."

Both men said they expected the technology to lead to a human space flight industry financed by the private sector.

Allen has invested more than $20 million in Scaled Composites to create the manned program -- a fraction of what government-sponsored efforts have cost.

Rutan predicted that the small investment would be just a start.

"Space flight is not only for governments to do," Rutan said. "Clearly, there's an enormous pent-up hunger to fly into space and not just dream about it."

He hesitated to give a precise prediction when a major tourism industry would develop. But he said that within 10 to 15 years affordable suborbital flights would become a reality, and it wouldn't stop there.

"We are heading to orbit sooner than you think," he said. "We do not intend to stay in low-earth orbit for decades. The next 25 years will be a wild ride. ... One that history will note was done for the benefit of everyone

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Mudd, I'm inclined to wax philosphically over this. Do you think that all the odd-ball things that Rutan has done and that looked like dead ends and fruitless exercises, have all been done to get ready for this? Is this achievement his (and his associates) mark on history? I am very impressed. I think this success is bigger than Goddard or Langley ever achieved. Well done!

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I'm probly the only one here who isn't thrilled over this. I've been a big fan of Rutan and his wonderfull designes over the years( I NEED a Vari-Viggen!) but this doent contribute anything to anything with the possible exception of the composite motor. He will get the X-Prize and that will be the last thing we hear about all this most likely.

Did they change the entry/exit of Spaceship-1? Last I saw you unscrewed the nose, took out the instrament pod and clambered out the nosehole, but this morning I saw video of the pilot sliding out a side manhole, BIG improvement if that's the case. Perhaps it was missnoted and was actually the SkyKnight mothership?

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I dont think nasa should be going before congress looking for new money after they did this with 20 million vs the hundreds of billions of dollars nasa has spent.


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since these guys are the new private industry skunk works, what do we want to bet they are getting ready to orbit in the next two to five years?

Then the next question is what is the home land security implications of having mock 3 space craft flying over the US. Who is gonna intercept one should something go wrong in a terrorist scenrio? Just see some new funding arguements for f-22 and other systems.


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I'm probly the only one here who isn't thrilled over this. I've been a big fan of Rutan and his wonderfull designs over the years( I NEED a Vari-Viggen!) but this doesn't contribute anything to anything with the possible exception of the composite motor. He will get the X-Prize and that will be the last thing we hear about all this most likely.
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Don't get me wrong, I like this project only for the sake of doing it "because it's there", for entertainment value. It's an engineering "tour de force" (pardon my french), maybe even a vanity project for Rutan and Allen. I do not think it foretells anything like a commercial space business any more than the Kremer prize foretold a commercial man-powered aircraft business. It does not match Lindbergh's 1927 X-Atlantic flight for potential impact, but I don't care. It is also unfair to compare this effort to current NASA activities. NASA has many more constraints. True, NASA projects used to be much more exciting. When NASA was doing (and out-doing) things like this with Mercury and X-15 projects 40 years ago, much higher risk was acceptable. Now it seems they take more time to fix blame for a failure than it took to engineer the hardware. As for all of Burt Rutan's previous endevours, I still do not understand the reason for any of them, other than to prepare for this one. However, I am not a visionary. He probably is. He is also entertaining. You gotta love the polka-dot look of the cabin windows of those air/spacecraft.

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those "polka-dot" windows are more of Rutans genius, they are super light while still withstanding the pressures.

I think this and the round the world flight (and upcoming round the world jet flight) are just kinda like a bar bet for him "oh I bet I CAN" sort of things. He may well be getting bored with the same ole same ole

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Mudd, I'm inclined to wax philosphically over this. Do you think that all the odd-ball things that Rutan has done and that looked like dead ends and fruitless exercises, have all been done to get ready for this? Is this achievement his (and his associates) mark on history? I am very impressed. I think this success is bigger than Goddard or Langley ever achieved. Well done!

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I know Mr. Rutan very well, My primary employers also use the Mojave test center. While an instructor at TPS in the late 90's, I got to know him quite well and is one of my mentors in the Field of Composite Structures which is the area of engineering I work in now with my UAV projects and so forth. Mr. Rutan has some very good understudies and it is easy for guys like me to go all out Nerd when your aound him and his Company. I've always enjoyed working with him and others at the Mojave test Center.

Their is no doubt about his self initiative, he has a proven track record of seeing projects through from inspiration. flight, and meeting challenges.

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mudd go nerd lol.

Since your in UAV a question what do you think the civilian market will be for some sort of UAV to replace police helicopters. The reason I ask is many cities that would benifit from this type air service can not afford the up keep of traditional helicopter. Besides down here in New Orleans no one would dare flying on New Years Eve with guns being fired into the air, but an over head view would go a long ways to catching these fools.


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I'd just like to add my own 2 cents. To me its looking like NASA is having a hard time figuring out what its problems are, and the "Bush Space Initiative" isn't really getting off the ground any time soon (if at all). The private space venture although is looking pretty stable at the moment. With Rutan looking like the sure winner of the X-Prize, I just hope that the other teams from the competition do not give up their efforts in the research of private spaceflight and do not attempt to reach their goals. Competition is the only factor that can make or break this concept.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Then the next question is what is the home land security implications of having mock 3 space craft flying over the US. Who is gonna intercept one should something go wrong in a terrorist scenrio? Just see some new funding arguements for f-22 and other systems.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>
I would imagine that the government will put some high regulations on the commercial spaceflight industry. Flights probably will not be as frequent as many people would imagine either.

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those "polka-dot" windows are more of Rutans genius, they are super light while still withstanding the pressures.
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I've done some windows from the structural standpoint and holding pressure never was a driving design requirement for any of them. After the visibility geometry is established, birdstrike, jettison, thermal expansion accomodation, and now spook stuff seem to dominate, especially at the edges. There are a lot more opportunities for innovation when you have total control of the design criteria and the way the aircraft is operated, like Mr. Rutan does. I guess he has earned that priviledge. I'm stuck with satisfying my customers requirements. Sometimes I feel pretty smart myself though, after a successful test.<img src=newicons/anim_bow.gif border=0 align=middle> Let's not mention the failures, shall we?<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Failures magnify success, you cant have one without the other, everything worthwhile seems to have had a big fat THUD somewhere in the work-up to get everyones attention. Bad practice=good game.

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