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PostPosted: 29 Aug 2004, 10:33 
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Navy jet rolls into S.D. Bay on landing

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By David E. Graham
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August 27, 2004

A Navy fighter jet lay in San Diego Bay after missing its landing last night at North Island Naval Air Station. The pilot ejected before the jet hit the water.

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CORONADO – Efforts will begin this afternoon to recover a $40 million F/A-18C Hornet jet that crashed into San Diego Bay while landing at the U.S. Naval Amphibious Base in Coronado, base officials said.

The Navy pilot managed to eject before the plane crashed into the water around 8:40 p.m. yesterday, and he was not injured, Navy and Coast guard officials said.

The plane, which is mostly still in one piece, will be lifted onto a barge later today, according to Steve Fiebing, a base spokesman.

"Preparations are under way right now to get the plane out of the water," Fiebing said late this morning. "A small amount of fuel leaked from the plane, but it is being contained at this time. There were no major fuel spills."

It was unclear why the jet overshot the runway last night, Fiebing said. The pilot told rescuers that the plane's brakes failed.

The runway typically used by Navy pilots was closed and the pilot was landing on an unfamiliar runway, a Navy spokesman told KNX radio in Los Angeles.

The cause of the crash is under investigation, Fiebing said.

The shaken pilot was not injured, but he was taken to San Diego Naval Medical Center for examination and was in good condition, Coast Guard officials said. His name was not immediately released.

The plane, belonging to Strike Fighter Squadron 151 attached to the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln, had flown from the ship to North Island, Navy officials said.

A Navy fighter jet ended up in San Diego Bay last night after it ran out of runway while landing at North Island Naval Air Station.

The lone pilot ejected before the plane hit the water, and he ended up in the bay and was pulled from the water, officials said. The pilot, apparently uninjured, told rescuers his brakes failed.

The plane, an F/A-18C Hornet from a carrier off the coast, was partially submerged in the bay last night.

"The pilot was unable to stop the aircraft and ended up just beyond the runway," said Cmdr. Ed Buclatin, a spokesman for Naval Air Forces.

He was taken to San Diego Naval Medical Center, where he seemed in good condition, Buclatin said.

The nickname "Lucky" was painted on the side of the plane by the cockpit.

U.S. Coast Guard and San Diego Harbor Police helped rescue the pilot.

The plane, in Strike Fighter Squadron 151 with the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln, had flown from the ship to North Island, Buclatin said.

The Lincoln is now off the coast. Buclatin said he did not know why the Hornet had come to North Island.

In March, two military planes crashed in the county.

On March 10, a Marine UC-35D Cessna jet went down at Miramar Marine Air Station when it was trying to land. Four Marines died.

On March 29, a Navy F-14 Tomcat, from Oceana Naval Air Station, Va., crashed into the sea about two miles off Point Loma, after it reportedly developed engine problems. The two-man crew ejected safely and two Navy contract employees in a nearby boat rescued them.


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Navy jet hauled out of bay

SIGNONSANDIEGO NEWS SERVICES
9:30 p.m. August 27, 2004

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A $40 million F/A-18C Hornet jet that crashed into San Diego Bay while landing at the U.S. Naval Amphibious Base in Coronado was hauled out of the water Friday night, an official said.

CORONADO – A $40 million F/A-18C Hornet jet that crashed into San Diego Bay while landing at the U.S. Naval Amphibious Base in Coronado was hauled out of the water Friday night, an official said.

The plane was hauled onto a barge by a crane and will be taken to a Navy pier, put on a tractor trailer and taken to a hangar, said Steve Fiebing, public affairs officer at the Naval Base Coronado.

"The aircraft appears to look in pretty good shape," Fiebing said.

Whether it will ever fly again "depends on the structural damage," Fiebing said.

Planes that crash into salt water can be cleaned up, but there was also damage when the pilot ejected from it, Fiebing said.

The Navy pilot managed to eject before the plane crashed into the water around 8:40 p.m. yesterday, and was not injured, Navy and Coast Guard officials said.

It was unclear why the jet overshot the runway Thursday night, Fiebing said. The pilot told rescuers that the plane's brakes failed.

The runway typically used by Navy pilots was closed and the pilot was landing on an unfamiliar runway, a Navy spokesman told KNX radio in Los Angeles.

The cause of the crash is under investigation, Fiebing said.

The shaken pilot was not injured, but was taken to San Diego Naval Medical Center for examination and was in good condition, Coast Guard officials said. His name was not immediately released.

The plane, belonging to Strike Fighter Squadron 151 attached to the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln, had flown from the ship to North Island, Navy officials said.


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hey guys on a nomoral military runway I thought they had arresting wire to prevent this? I mean dont some airforce craft have hooks also for this reason?


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They do. In fact, they made a special explosive panel to cover the hook on the F-117. I don't know if they have the arrester wires spread all the time on runways though. Need more info to tell if it could have been used here.

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They do. In fact, they made a special explosive panel to cover the hook on the F-117. I don't know if they have the arrester wires spread all the time on runways though. Need more info to tell if it could have been used here.

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NAS North Island only has two E-27 wires per runway. On the runway he was landing on, the departure end wire is located about 2000 feet or so prior to the end of the runway (there's no overrun on their runway, hence no true end-of-runway wires or barriers), so by the time he realized he may have needed to drop the hook, it may have been too late, or even if he dropped the hook it could've "skipped" over the wire (common).



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I Fly out of NAS North and Imperial All the Time. At times Lindbergh Field Control can make for some dicey moments. Their has been issues of the psat with Poor Visibility. With all the marina lighting around the Bay, It is easy to get into a bad Lineup. Theirs been a few S-3'd to land on the Tarmac and taxiways. Which is why that side of the ramp is left Well Clear.

Amusing to say the least. Departure end barrier Blows!

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what does it take to make this aircraft flight worthy again if it is structurally sound.

I know down in Louisiana a flood car is basically a lemon from that day forward.


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I know down in Louisiana a flood car is basically a lemon from that day forward.
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An aircraft in saltwater is usually a reef from that day forward.

Nearly impossible to assure proper corrosion control on an airframe that takes a swim. Might be able to clean up and use parts off of it.

When I was a senior in high school, I worked line service at a local airport. One of the tenant aircraft on the field was an old O-1 that was rigged for banner towing. One of the pilots misjudged his pickup and the airplane wound up in the drink near Atlantic City, NJ. I had an overly large pickup truck at the time, so the airport manager, a mechanic and I hooked a trailer up to it and went down to recover the airplane.

When we found it, it was on a pier where a salvage crew had offloaded it from a barge. We unbolted the wings, the tail sat in the bed of my truck, and the main gear was strapped to the trailer. The wings were strapped to the side of the fuselage, and we proceeded north on the Garden State Parkway. While listening to a local radio station traffic report, we heard, "Watch for a slow-moving airplane facing southbounnd and moving northbound on the Parkway in the vicinity of the Toms River exit." We did get some interesting looks from people passing us, especially when I posted a sign on the driver's side window that said, "I'd rather be flying."

When we got the airplane back to the home field and in the hanger, the maintenance guys worked like crazy to try and save the airplane. A thick, purple anti-corrosion fluid was sprayed all over the interior of the fuselage and wings. Unfortunately, the attempts to save the fuselage were in vain and the airplane wound up a 'hanger queen' and donated parts to the rest of the O-1s.

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That does my heart good to see that. Couldnt happen to a finer airframe. I mean thats strictly a non biased opinion from an F14 guy.

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Overly large pickup?

LOL, it was a monster truck dude. ;)

A nice one too, i'd add.

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