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PostPosted: 28 Nov 2004, 07:49 
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Got a chance to see an unclass briefing on this sucker at Eglin a couple weeks ago. All I can say is....unbelieveable. The only way to defeat it is to (somehow) get yourself in a flat scissors directly beneath and in-sync with the bandit. This missile will totally change BFM...really make it go away in the traditional sense...

ATTACK!!!!!!!


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She was my baby for 5 years <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> Plus the other previous 3 years of foriegn system evals.

"The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader


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PostPosted: 28 Nov 2004, 15:21 
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And still people wonder why we chose the AIM-9X over the AIM-132.

"The worst football halftime show is still better than a soccer game." - Ron "Tater Salad" White.


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PostPosted: 28 Nov 2004, 23:18 
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Cool. I hope the -9X gives the Python 4 and AA-11 a good run for their money.


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PostPosted: 28 Nov 2004, 23:35 
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AA-11 is limited to a 40 Deg FOV and the Processors have a Very Bad Sensory lag, which prevents them from aquiring SCHLEM in a Merge or High aspect shot placements. It really only allows you to engage a bandit on the forward 10-1 Line. On top of this the system has no Uncage Capability. IF you dont have Sensory lock the System will not fire.

The biggest advantage is the missiles 90 Degree or/180 total Field Of View and the JHMCS with complete integration into the Fighters Computer. Add in JTIDS sensor slaving in the flight.

In Missile Manuever Comparison the 9x outperforms Lead/Lag pursuit capability ofthe Python 4, Some may recal that the Python series is the first missile to track and kill a 180 Manuever target (it basically looped 360 Deg. )

THE JHMCS/JTIDS SLAVING OF THE 120 is Another Asset to have.

"The power to Destroy the planet, is insignifigant to the power of the Air Force----Mudd Vader


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PostPosted: 29 Nov 2004, 10:43 
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Now then, how's that Scram jet version of the AMRAAM doing?


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PostPosted: 29 Nov 2004, 14:17 
Well Curt, i could start at the first line of your post and not stop gashing deep cuts into until the last, but i'll leave that for the actual pilots on this forum to do.

I don't want to steal their glory...

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
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PostPosted: 29 Nov 2004, 23:18 
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a classic Plummer post <img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle>

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PostPosted: 30 Nov 2004, 02:21 
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What I want to hear is a classic MrMudd rectal-cranium inversion reversal technique demonstrated on one of Plummer's posts.

Give me some of that good old prior-enlisted Marine ass-chewing, with enough Jeremiah Weed on the breath to make Ted Kennedy pass out, combined with the knowledge that comes from flight test and having been there-done that in a variety of different platforms.

Now THAT would be entertaining!

ATTACK!


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PostPosted: 30 Nov 2004, 05:50 
To be honest i thought i'd banned Plummer from this forum a couple years ago.

Guess not...

LOL

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PostPosted: 30 Nov 2004, 06:03 
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Judging by the fact it says 5 posts, I think he used a loophole to get back in.
"The worst football halftime show is still better than a soccer game." - Ron "Tater Salad" White.

Edited by - BenRoethig on Nov 30 2004 05:03 AM


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Must say I'd have to rely on Mudd to respond to this one...he's the expert. Though I did have a wicked difficult time understanding 90% of what Plummer said...and I work in this business...granted as a lowly (ex) Hawg guy and not a BFM specialist. But if I understand it correctly, Plummer just insulted Mudd something fierce.

BTW, the Aim-9X is currently fielded in Eagle squadrons (namely Elmo to help make up for their poor showing vs the Indians last year). Don't know where he's getting his info but sounds like he's looking at it through a soda straw. In any event, it's an awesome missile especially coupled with the Helmet Mounted Cuuing System. Puts AA-11 to shame...

ATTACK!!!!!!!


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PostPosted: 30 Nov 2004, 23:15 
Plummer's game is weaving a cloak of confusion through techno-babble to appear as an expert.

I've had it out with him before on other boards.

He's a fake and a troll, don't waste any of your time trying to decipher his nonsense.

"One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly."
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PostPosted: 01 Dec 2004, 10:36 
Kurt didn't take his banning too well.

"Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:22:59 -0700 (GMT-07:00):

>Mr. Nelson,
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>I would like you to review your moderator's banning of my username and
provide a declaration of cause.
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>I was invited to post on your forum by another user (Tritonal from the
Military.com forum) and did so.
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>If there is some particular element of what I said which is factually
wrong then by all means let me know.
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>But having never initiated nor responded to M-21 Sniper's gibes and
character assassinations, I find it unusual that you would allow him to
first insult and then ban me without comment.
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>Thank You, Kurt Plummer"

LOL....Kurt Plummer, LOSER. ;)

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PostPosted: 01 Dec 2004, 11:26 
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I didn't know at all he had this past.
I thought you'd just get a kick out of him.


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PostPosted: 01 Dec 2004, 11:39 
I did.

Kicking him right on out of here. ;)

Not your fault trit, you didn't know.

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PostPosted: 01 Dec 2004, 12:22 
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I knew the "flight experiencers" would have a field day with this guy.
I kinda thought I was bringing a lamb to the slaughter<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>


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PostPosted: 01 Dec 2004, 20:39 
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<i>For a woman to be a lesbian in a male-supremacist, capitalist, misogynist, racist, homophobic, imperialist culture, such as that of North America, is an act of resistance" (Cheryl Clarke, 1981)
</i>

Nowadays, it's the status quo.


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Edited by - tritonal on Dec 01 2004 9:10 PM


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Is the Python 5 out yet?


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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
RAISING MY HAND

<b>The only way to defeat it is to (somehow) get yourself in a flat scissors directly beneath and in-sync with the bandit. This missile will totally change BFM...really make it go away in the traditional sense...</b>


Ummmm ok I understood about half of this, can someone translate?

I (think) I know what "flat scissors" are and I understand in-sync, but as for the rest WTF?????

For a woman to be a lesbian in a male-supremacist, capitalist, misogynist, racist, homophobic, imperialist culture, such as that of North America, is an act of resistance" (Cheryl Clarke, 1981)
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Flying beneath the enemy's nose so he can't see you as he maneuvers. Tough to do as you're flying by reference to the top of your canopy. He won't be able to cue his helmet mounted sight and missile to you if he can't see you.


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