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PostPosted: 14 Jul 2005, 03:09 
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There is a series currently running on UK Channel 4 called the “Ten Greatest Ever…”

They’ve covered bikes and trains etc, but two nights ago did the “Ten Greatest Ever Fighters”

They came up with

10. F117
9. Foker DR1 Tri-plane
8. Mitsubishi Zero A6M
7. Harrier GR3
6. F86 Saber
5. Meschersmit ME190
4. F18 Super Hornet
3. MIG 21
2. Spitfire
1. ???

Anybody got any opinions of the list so far and any guesses as to what got the No. 1 spot?

BTW, direct any hate mail to Channel 4, not me…


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Well, the french <img src=newicons/spit.gif border=0 align=middle> haven't done anything since the Nieuport, so hopefully we can rule them out.

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The A-1 Skyraider?


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P-51 mustang


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Why is the F-117 on that list?

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The programme makers admitted that it was a bomber.

But that it was a bomber that flew like a fighter.

And because none of the top pilots wanted to fly a B designation, the only way to attract them to the fleet was to assign it an F designation...

Keep guessing folks...

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Was it English? And it was a bomber? Than i think the Lancaster. That is de pride of Englands WW2 memorial flying birds.

Let us know here what the correct answer is.

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Sorry Dutchy, but it's fighters only (except the F117)

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PostPosted: 14 Jul 2005, 13:48 
It's almost definitely the P-51, but the F-15 and F6F are also strong candidates.

There's NO WAY you can make a top ten list without the F-15, F6F and P-51 that's worth a damn.

Considering they only have one open slot remaining......it ought to tell you what i think of their list.

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As usual everybody (with the exception of 30MM) has had something worthwhile to contribute.

I'll post the No. 1 Fighter before I get some shut eye.

Will it be a Lawn Dart..?

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Will it be a Lawn Dart..?
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Gawd I hope not, I would have to put in a vote for the P-51 Mustang I know it's one of my favorite airframes and after watching a special on it last night on the military channel I was further impressed with it's capablilities.

F-117 at #10 is bs, while it's classified as a fighter we all know that was a political rating




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Everybody who went for the <b>P-51</b>, give yourselves a pat on the back.

It was placed as the No. 1 fighter of all time.

An awesome airframe linked to an awesome engine... I had no idea it ran with a Merlin up front.

A quote I found on the web...

<i>The P51 Mustang had an astonishing success rate. Its ratio for kills to losses was said to have been 19 kills for every 1 Mustang lost. The P51 Mustang is credited with the destruction of 4,950 German planes – more than any other Allied fighter – and some of these kills included the jet powered Me 262.</i>

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Sorry, Fighters. Okay I try it again. Maybe the Hurricane, made in England. But I read it could also be used as bomber and we are here by the A-10 site/forums. So I think the good old P-47 Thunderbolt. He was made as fighter, later in WW2 used as a bomber/attack against trains etc.

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>But that it was a bomber that flew like a fighter.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> Ask Type how it flies. Unless they don't want us telling how many G's it can actually pull.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>And because none of the top pilots wanted to fly a B designation, the only way to attract them to the fleet was to assign it an F designation...<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>You need a pilot?<img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle>

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> You need a pilot?<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

LOL, that's gotta hurt...

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Yes, 44, I was being a smarta$$. But then, the P-51 was pretty much a forgone conclusion, IMHO. The original Allison engine was basically worthless for anything other than ground attack work. Mating the Merlin with the airframe di the trick. Wasn't it the same Allison that they put into the P-39?

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Well let's face it, you know about planes so you've got right to behave however you see fit when dealing with a land lubber <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>...

I think you have a point, the programme was very 'popularist' so this might explain why such an obvious choice like the P51 was made.

From a purely jingo-istic PoV I would have voted for the Hurricane as it actually shot down more planes than the Spitfire.

But I guess it just wasn't glamourous enough...

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