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PostPosted: 19 Oct 2005, 17:25 
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I was driving home from work tonight, and saw a B-24 landing at the local airport. Don't know much about such things, but is there a way to find out whose it is and what it's doing?

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PostPosted: 19 Oct 2005, 21:02 
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Sure, where are you and what was its colors ? There are only a few 24's left in the skies.

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Was it this one?
http://www.collingsfoundation.org/menu.htm

This one and her sister B-17 "Nine-o-Nine" were in ST Louis Monday. Very pretty sight seeing them arrive.<img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Not to mention the pilot...

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Meet Caroline Lindgren, bomber pilot

Thomas F. Norton

3/13/2003

When a World War II B-24 heavy bomber pulls up on the ramp, very few people expect to see a young woman at the controls. That was unusual even during World War II, when these airplanes were routinely ferried from factories to air bases by the women of the WASP and WAFS.

Well, say hello to Caroline Lindgren, who flies the Collings Foundation B-24J and B-17 bombers during their nationwide tours each year.

A native of Sweden, Lindgren came to the United States in 1996 to earn her commercial, CFI and CFII tickets at the North American Institute of Aviation in Conway, S.C. After she got out of school in June 1997, she started to work for Paul Fayard's Carolina Sky Sports.

"I was mainly flying skydivers – it was a skydiving operation – but his was the largest skydiving company in the country so we flew all over the U.S., mostly the east coast," she says. "We were flying CASAs – I was the first officer in one of those – and I got a little bit of King Air time there, flying a B-90. I was responsible for flight instruction there, too, and banner towing, and demonstration jumps for air shows – a little of everything. It was fun."

Did she ever jump? "Yes, but tandem only," she says. "I have six tandems, and one of them is out of the Collings Foundation B-17. I didn't want to go for my skydiving license though. I did it just for fun. I was busy flying. I liked flying better."

While flying jumpers for performances at football games, Lindgren landed at Winston-Salem Airport in North Carolina. The bombers were there on one of their tour stops. Jim Zazas, a US Airways pilot who was flying as co-pilot in the Collings B-17, introduced himself "because he recognized the airplane I was flying, and it turned out he had worked for the same company 15 years earlier," Lindgren recalls. "He introduced me to the crew and showed me around the airplanes. They needed a co-pilot, and since I was there, and I had the right certificates, they asked me if I wanted to go. And I said ‘Let me think about it —Yes!'"

The decision took "20 milliseconds, I think." She got to fly with the Collings crew a couple of days later, on a ferry flight to Hickory, out of Winston-Salem. "It was my first flight in the B-24. It was wonderful. They had me fly it a little bit and I guess they liked what I did, so they asked me to come back."

That was in 1997, but she was working for Carolina Sky Sports so couldn't join the Collings outfit immediately. "My visa was running out and I decided to quit my job two months in advance, so I'd be able to fly the bombers before I left the country, because I didn't know whether I was going to be back. That's when I really fell in love with flying the airplanes and I started to master it a little more. Then I went back to Sweden and got my Swedish Airline Transport ratings in 1998. After that, I've been back here to the U.S. every year to fly the bombers on at least some portion of their tour."

Lindgren has logged nearly 500 hours in the B-24 and at least 150 in the B-17, according to Ryan Keough, tour coordinator for the Collings Foundation. It is almost certain she has logged more B-24 time than any other woman in aviation history, including the WASP of World War II.

The Collings Foundation B-24J is the only restored and flyable B-24 in the world, out of less than a dozen still in existence. More than 18,000 were built during World War II, of which 6,678 were the J model. The Collings Foundation, based in Stow, Massachusetts, flies the B-24 and a B-17G on tours around the United States, ranging from Alaska to Florida. Rigorously maintained – no easy job, as the B-24 alone has some 1.25 million parts – the airplanes are flown by volunteer crews. Most stops are at small and medium-size airports rather than major cities, as the latter present security and access problems. The whole purpose of the tours, explains Keough, is for as many people as possible to see the bombers up close, go aboard them, and even fly in them.

Lindgren would like to move to the United States, but is waiting for her green card, which has become a very slow process since Sept. 11, 2001. In the meantime, she comes here as a visitor.

She flies in Sweden, but just for fun. "I haven't been flying for a living in Sweden because I knew I wanted to come back and fly in the United States. Actually I've been waiting for my green card for a long time now, but I've been fortunate enough to be able to fly the bombers."





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that's the one,and only.....
quote from above.....
<b>The Collings Foundation B-24J is the only restored and flyable B-24 in the world, out of less than a dozen still in existence.</b>

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Actaully I think it is the only J model in the world. it isnt the only 24.

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Actaully I think it is the only J model in the world. it isnt the only 24. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

You're right Hawg, the CAF has one also and it's flyable.

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What happened to "Made In America" ?

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Here's the CAF website on the aircraft:

http://www.cafb29b24.org/history-b24.shtml

Designed in 1938 by Consolidated Aircraft in San Diego, California, to try to improve on the performance of the Boeing B-17, the proposed Model 32 bomber incorporated the new Davis airfoil and the high aspect ratio wing design of their Model 31 experimental flying boat, Fowler wing flaps, the first tricycle landing gear on a heavy bomber, and the twin tails of the Model 31 was actually removed and installed on the prototype for it's first flight.
Wind tunnel tests confirmed the improved performance of the design and in February, 1939, the U.S. Army Air Corps issued a Type Specification to cover the Consolidated design. After allowing nominal time for other manufacturers to submit designs, a contract to build the XB-24 was signed on March 30, 1939. The USAAC was so confident of the design, seven YB-24 service test airplanes were ordered on April 27, 1939, before the final design of the XB-24 was complete. Additionally, 38 B-24A's were ordered in August, 1939, prior to the first flight of the prototype. The XB-24 made it's first flight on December 29, 1939, one day under nine months after the contract was signed.

As the war in Europe escalated, France placed an order with Consolidated in May 1940 for B-24's, but France was overrun by the Axis before they were built and these aircraft were later diverted to Britain as LB-30's.

Britain desperately needed a long range bomber for use in a coastal patrol and defense squadron, and Consolidated received permission to divert 6 of the 7 YB-24 aircraft to Britain as LB-30's with British serial numbers (AM258 to AM263), along with the first 20 (S/N 40-2349 to 40-2368) production aircraft in the USAAC order for 38 B-24A's. These 20 aircraft were assigned British serial numbers (AM910 to AM929) and the USAAC serial numbers were reassigned to the first 20 B-24D aircraft.

Of the remaining 18 B-24A aircraft, 9 aircraft (S/N 40-2369 to 40-2377) were built and delivered to the USAAC as B-24A's. The other 9 aircraft (S/N 40-2378 to 40-2386) were modified on the production line to B-24C models by replacing the original Pratt & Whitney R-1830-31 radials with -41 turbo supercharged radials, adding the elliptical engine cowling, installing an A-6 type power turret in the tail with twin 50-cal machine guns, and mounting a Martin power turret on the top forward fuselage. These aircraft were used for testing and training, none were ever flown in combat.

In an effort to increase performance, the remaining YB-24 was retrofitted with R-1830-41 turbo supercharged engines, self sealing fuel tanks, and the elliptical engine cowlings that were characteristic of all B-24 models starting with the -D. The converted aircraft was designated the XB-24B and the improvements were incorporated into the B-24D design when the Army exercised a 1939 option and ordered 56 more airplanes.


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I think that Diamond Lil is the 24 that says Made In America on the right side with a list of all the corporations that contributed to it listed also on the nose.

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