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I beg to differ...<img src=newicons/icon_hog.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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I've said Crusader II all along.

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Still going with Thunderhawk or Marauder <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

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The Razorback was also one of the Nick Names for the 1st P-47 Thunderbolts because of the canopy placement then later with the new design were called "Bubble" canopy P-47's

I would have to go with your idea Snipe The Crusader II but then it'll probably be use against a Islamic Country it wouldnt be politically correct <img src=newicons/anim_bow.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/spit.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=newicons/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle>

" went through a whole list," he recalled. "It had to be something that all the services could relate to." The consensus, he said, was Fury, with adaptations for each of the services -- Sky Fury for the Air Force, Sea Fury for the Navy and Storm Fury for the Marines because, he said, "the Marines storm the beaches."

NOPE! HELO'S already have "Sea Furies"

I'd use "Stingray" the reason because of the TV show
" Voyage to the bottom of the sea" The subs name was the "Stingray" and by the drawings and Proto types concepts I've seen it kind of looks like that sub either that or my mind is really gone now.

I'd just call it the "MUTT" because everyone knows a "Mutt" makes the best,most loyal , ,Will protect you with its life and your "best friend as Dog's go"

I guess I'd not be working for a "Name company"

Goose


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Heck, just name it <b>J</b>o<b>S</b>e<b>F</b>. Call it Joe for short. <img src=icon_smile_clown.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Regardless as to whatever they end up calling it, for many it will forever be known as the Joint Suck Fighter.

Or they could call it the Hornet II or perhaps a Wasp: jack of all trades but a master of none.

I have a buddy that works the JSF program for Lockheed. I e-mailed him for some intel and this is what he sent back:

One name that has been buzzing is Fury....Sea Fury (Navy CV carrier version), Air Fury(AF CT conventional Take-off), Assault Fury (Marines) (STOVL - short take-off Vertical landing) for the three variants. I have "heard" they have narrowed the list to three names - but I could not find out what they were - are *&^?!

But I'd go with something like Mo, Larry and Curly! nawk nauk neeuuuck.....slap, pow! boom doink- honk honk! (insert curly scream here) toodlelooodledoo...we just blew the crap out of yooouuuu!!

No inside track.... but will let you know if I hear anything.




"Those who have long enjoyed such privileges as we enjoy forget, in time, that men have died to win them."
Franklin Deleano Roosevelt

I like the name variations for the different branches...The USMC & USN should have a common name due to their maritime operations, the USAF should be different...The Royal Navy will jack it up and call it something odd. I remember they named their version of F-4F Wildcat the "Martlet" Not sure if they renamed the F-4 Phantom II anything?

Of course when the USN was considering the P-51 towards the end of the war (Pacific), because of its long legs they dubbed it the "Sea Horse" durring its CV compatability trials...Sounded kind of stupid to me.

I personaly like Shrike & Sea Shrike...

Crusader II would fit the times well IMHO.

Chadrewsky do you have a link or more information on an USN P-51 Sea Horse?
Thank you….

You could probably query Google "P-51 Carrier Trials WWII, and get a result. I read about it in one of my Naval History books, can't remember which one because I have a small library of them. I don't think the USN did anything more than carrier trials...We were able to capture islands close enough for Army Air Corps P-38's and P-51's to reach mainland Japan, and Imperial Japanese Airforce was so depleted of experienced pilots and fuel for their aircraft that B-29's were able to operate at higher altitudes with relative impunity. P-51's were able to trap and launch from CV's however...

Fury, Hunter, and Phoenix are my favorites.

My motto: pacis per vires

In the Netherlands they had the idea to ask the public about a name for the JSF. There was also a price that you could win (I didn't win). The winning name was: Black Mamba!


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In the UK that's the name of a dildo...

You're born, you keep your head down and you die. If you're lucky...

In this weeks issue of the Air Force Times, the six finalists of proposed names for the F-35 are:

Black Mamba - Many consider the snake to be the fastest and deadliest reptile in Africa. The Netherlands suggested the name. (Way to go Dutchy)

Cyclone - The Cyclone was a family of radial piston engines that powered World War II era aircraft. Today, the Canadian military is buying a helicopter tagged the Cyclone.

Lightning II - The first Lightning was the twin engine, twin tail Lockheed P-38 World War II era interceptor. Lightning II was nominated by the Navy and Air Force.

Piasa - A fierce bird from Midwest Native American legends. The name, pronounced "pie-uh-saw" was suggested by Denmark.

Reaper - By itself, Reaper doesn't have much of an Air Force history. "Grim Reapers" was the name of the 423rd Bomb Squadron during World War II. Many units have played off the Reaper's deadly and ghostly reputation.

Spitfire II - Spitfire was a British-built World War II fighter, but Army Air Force pilots flew the planes from airfields in Britian and North Africa. This name would let the Air Force reinforce the idea that it fights as a coalition partner.

The Air Force Chief of Staff General Michael Moseley has the final say on the name but will consult with the Marine Corp and Navy service chiefs before making a final decision.

There is also info in the article about how the official name gets changed by pilots and maintainers. For instance, the F-16 went from the Falcon to the Viper anf the A-10 went from the Thunderbolt II to the Warthog.

Check www.airforcetimes.com to see the article. This weeks Times is not there yet but should be soon. (They posted it while I was typing this)



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Edited by - engineguy on Jun 06 2006 09:42

There is an old painting of a Piasaw bird along the cliffs of the missisipi river just south of Saint Louis as I recall.

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Well if it is to be reduced to one of those six names...I would go with either Spitfire II, or Lightning II. Though Crusader II would be the most befitting of the times.

Those names all suck.

Of the lot i gotta go Crusader II as well.

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Just came up with a new name: "postphoned" sounds good to me. Buy modern F-16E/F's and when they wear out, than lets pickup the JSF than. Even with that said however, I still think the JSF is bad move. The F-4 was the last time all three jet operating services (USAF, USN, and the USMC) went all in on the same aircraft and that worked so well that all three branches soon thereafter sought out their own specific replacement aircraft in the F-15, F-14, & F-18.

History shows the F-4 philosophy did not work so what makes people think it will now, especially when the entire program is all predicated upon the STOVL version?!?! Can you imagine if the Navy and Air Force had to make their LWF's out of the AV-8 Harrier platform?! It's only a matter of time before it all comes back to the JSF program in the @ss.

I'd be interested to hear a specific reason the F-35 is such a bad idea. The F-4 was such a "terrible" idea that they sold more than 5000 of them to virtually every western air force in the world.

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I'd like to hear it too Boomer. Krieger, in the KC-30 post you say we shouldn't buy the KC-767 because it's elderly yet you're advocating buying more F-16's, an almost 40 year old design. I'm confused.

OC

Some days it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints

I must admit I am curious why myself. The word I get from a guy at the factory in Fort Worth is that this aircraft will be the combat aircraft that others will be measured by.

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Gravity....its not just a good idea, its the law.

Reaper is what they now call the Predator-B or MQ-9.

As far as the word of the guy at the factory in Ft Worth...never ask a barber if you need a haircut.

Coach

A test pilot who has flown both the F-22 and F-35 developement aircraft says the same thing, the 35 rocks.

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Lightning II.

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